Starting from Max and Sophie ...

Something happened that scattered the branches of Max and Sophie Minden's family. It was partly the war, partly the Shoa, partly the urge to emigrate and its counterweight, the urge to stay in one safe place. As of the time when this blog is beginning, November 2014, many of their descendants live in the United States yet have never met in person; some of us have met those in France, in England, in Israel, in Australia ... and Canada, South America, and who knows where else we are. This is a space for sharing who we are and what we know about our past, as well as our present and future as a Global Family.
Showing posts with label Ernest Minden. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ernest Minden. Show all posts

Wednesday, December 29, 2021

A Good Chat with Tante Ruth Novice, December 29, 2021

Ruth, Judi, Meir.


Ruth's two sets of grandparents, maternal and paternal (the Heilbuts and the Mindens), were good friends. As a result, her father Henry and his wife Anna Sophie Heilbut grew up practically next door to each other -- and then they married.

Henry was the oldest of the 11 siblings (10 surviving); he was born in 1890.  When his brother Ernest (Ernst) would come to visit his "big brother," there was always a lot of joking, because Henry was relatively short, and Ernest was very tall -- so, who was the "big" one? Because Ernst was so tall, he often bent down to listen or speak with people who were shorter than him.  Henry's wife Anna would often say to Ernst "you must keep your back straight!" 

Before World Ware II, Henry and his family were living in Germany.   Because Henry had lived in England for several years in the early 1900s, he was a British subject and was able to ensure the status of "British by Birth" to his wife and children.  Just before Kristallnacht, they feared for their lives and had to flee from Germany.  Being British subjects allowed them to escape from Germany.  In addition, Henry was easily able to get a new job when he arrived in England in 1938 because he was already British.

When the war began, Ernest and his family lived in Woking, outside London and practically in the country. Henry and family lived in London, without a car, but would visit when they could. Henry and Ernest's mother Sophie lived for some time with Ernest and family, another reason to visit. Henry was born in England so did not need a visa when he moved there, and was able to get a job right away.

When Ernest's sons were bar mitzvah, this was in the Reform tradition, so it took place on Sunday, not on Shabbes, and Ruth (from the Orthodox part of the family) could be there.

Ruth's parents lived in northwest (NW) London, in Golders Green; Ernest's wife Lena moved there after her divorce, and they were able to walk to shul. 

When Henry and Anna first arrived in England, they had very little money -- Ruth's recollection is that when they escaped from Germany, each person could carry 20 marks, or about 20 dollars today. So at first their home in Alba Gardens (see document below) was a rental, and later they moved. They had used furniture, including a dining table that could be expanded with a leaf that didn't fit very well. When the children, including cousin Nucu (Nicholas Minden, son of Richard), would play pingpong on the table, the misfit portion made the game unique!

Nucu was born in Bucharest (his mother was Romanian). Ruth recalls that her own grandmother went to Bucharest for a while (before and during the war?) and brought home very pretty things.

We also chatted a bit about Henry and Ernest's brother Alfred, who was sent before World War II to live in Australia "because he had behaved badly." Later, when it became necessary due to the danger from teh Nazis for their sister Claire to leave Germany, she was able to go to Australia because Alfred could sponsor her there. This changed the family narrative to saying that it was beshert (meant to be by G-d) that Alfred be there, to save Claire. [See http://minden-family.blogspot.com/2016/03/alfred-minden-every-large-family-has.html]

BK, 12-29-21 (phone conversation, Judi Roth also present at Ruth's end)

Tuesday, January 29, 2019

Family Trees and Branches

Another family researcher just asked for some trees to be "planted" here -- hence these two images. More stories soon. -- ELK


Saturday, March 21, 2015

Dr. Henry Minden, Lawyer (Generation 1)

I am still trying to pull together the experiences of my childhood with the information I'm learning now. Dr. Henry Minden (Generation 1), a lawyer, was a brother of my grandfather Ernest Minden; I see from his great-grandson David Roth's article (see previous post) that he lived for decades in Golders Green, London. I'm adding here a notice from the February 1972 issue of AJR Information, published by the Association of Jewish Refugees in Great Britain. It acknowledges Dr Minden's death in December 1971.

I met Dr Henry Minden and his wife Anna once when I was a child -- a meal was provided for their visit at the home of yet another Henry (Henri) Minden, this one living in Great Neck on Long Island, New York. I'm guessing it was around 1964. I also visited my grandmother Lena's home in England in 1959 and 1967 (after her divorce from Ernest Minden), and I believe that too was in Golders Green. I don't think I met Henry and Anna during those visits; probably the varied styles of Jewish life did not encourage such a visit at that time. But I met Lotte Gore there, I'm sure -- when I figure out how she connects to all this, I'll annotate this mention. UPDATE: Lena's home was at 56, Clifton Gardens, London NW 11.


Onward!

Sunday, March 8, 2015

Max Minden & Company, Ltd.: Egg Importers, Hull, England

This is what I remember about my grandfather, Ernest, mentioning selling eggs: His friend Kurt Delbanco told me (about the year 2000) that Kurt himself had started his working career selling pig bristles and related products -- pig bristles were valued for artists' brushes, and Kurt followed that path to become an artist himself. Ernest, on the other hand, started out selling eggs; Kurt smiled at the conjunction of the two agricultural products.

I didn't realize until recently that the likely reason for Ernest Minden (Generation 1) selling eggs as a young man was that this was the family business. Ernest's father was Max Minden (Generation A), and Max owned an egg importing company in Hull, England, called Max Minden & Company, Ltd.

This week I was excited to find three images that relate to the company. First, shown above, is a photo of a company truck! I am trying to obtain the original photo.

Second and third, below, are mentions of the company: one from 1917 in an Iowa publication called The Egg Reporter and clearly referring to the risks of the war for egg importing; and the other, dated 1905, from a Canadian government department. This pair suggests that Max Minden & Co. was importing eggs from both Canada and the United States.



Finally, I can't access the images for these, but the Hill History Centre has a number of documents that include mention of Max Minden & Company in the survey of damages from the Second World War. If you are visiting Hull, please do go look! One of them has the following information:

Forms for the notification of war damage under section 10 of the War Damage Act, 1941. War Damage Commission Form C.

Reference No:
C TCY/2/1/2/770
Dates:
12 Dec 1940
Description:
Position of Property Damaged: Alfred Gelder Street, Max Mindens
Type of Property Damaged: Warehouse
Date of Damage: 12 Dec 1940
Cause of Damage: Incendiary Bombs
Format:
Archive Item
Extent:
1 item
Access Conditions:
Access will be granted to any accredited reader
Repository:
Hull University Archives
Collection:
Town Clerk's Records relating to World War II